Rational Security

Is the Obama administration's hand-wringing over Chinese cyber spying making the U.S. look like chumps? Two new books chart the meteoric rise of ISIS. And a former U.S. ambassador highlights the importance of international partnerships to U.S. counterterrorism.  Plus, in Object Lessons, Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson wants you to chill out!  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.