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Today's episode is a conversation with Bret Kinsella, recorded while he was in Las Vegas for CES and preparing to step onto the AI stage. Bret brings a rare combination of long-term perspective and hands-on experience. As General Manager of Fuel iX at TELUS Digital, he operates generative AI systems at a scale most enterprises never see, processing trillions of tokens and delivering measurable business outcomes for global organizations. That vantage point gives him a clear view of both the promise of generative AI and the uncomfortable truths many teams are still avoiding. Together, we unpack why generative AI breaks so many of the assumptions security teams have relied on for decades. Bret explains why these systems are probabilistic rather than deterministic, and how that single shift creates what he calls an unbounded attack surface. Users are no longer limited to predefined buttons or workflows, and outputs are no longer constrained to a fixed database. The same prompt can succeed or fail depending on sub