Early Edition with Kate Hawkesby

National wants to turn our attention away from the fact the number of people on welfare is going down. More than 21,000 people moved off a benefit and into work in the three months to September. National's Louise Upston says the more important figure is that 35,000 more people are staying on a benefit for more than a year. She told Kate Hawkesby the National party isn't willing to see people write their lives off and become welfare dependent. LISTEN ABOVESee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.