The Goop Podcast

Alua Arthur is a death doula and the founder of Going with Grace, an end-of-life planning and death doula training organization. Arthur, who was previously an attorney, has helped thousands of people explore and move through the end-of-life process. Today, she joins cohost Erica Chidi to talk about the beauty and satisfaction that comes with making space for both grief and joy. They discuss the differences between a good and ideal death, getting comfortable with what’s dying and dead in our daily life, practical ways to prepare for death (which Arthur manages to make exciting), natural burials, and celebrating our most human experiences. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tracy Clark-Flory is a senior staff writer at Jezebel and author of Want Me: A Sex Writer’s Journey Into the Heart of Desire. Her book explores the messages we receive from society about sex, intimacy, and pleasure and how this shapes our sexual lives and identities. She explains how sexual empowerment has been watered down and twisted into an individualistic approach and why it’s critical to think of the larger cultural and collective context. Today, she also talks about orgasms, porn, reckoning feminist values with sexual fantasies, and how sharing our experiences can be transformational and help us broaden the conversation around sex and our bodies.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“What’s great about great players is their mind,” says Venus Williams. GP chatted with Williams, who was in Paris on the heels of the French Open. They talk about Williams’ perspective on competition, where her drive comes from, and what drew her to her many ventures (which include an interior design firm, lifestyle and activewear brand, personal care products, and a plant-based protein company). Williams also shares stories about her childhood, what it was like growing up with four sisters, and the values that her parents instilled in her at a young age. The tail end of the conversation is about what Williams hopes to do now—and next. “I’ve always just been a person who’s happy where I am,” says Williams. “Even when you’re looking forward to the future, what about enjoying your now?” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I find it so confounding when leaders are uninterested in having their people’s experiences in the work—because how boring is that?” asks Bozoma Saint John, global chief marketing officer at Netflix. In this conversation with GP, Saint John shares some of her own extraordinary life story, why she believes that everyone has a powerful story within them, and how you can recognize the value of yours. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cohost Erica Chidi is joined by Tara Brach, a clinical psychologist, spiritual meditation teacher, and author. Brach’s new book, Trusting the Gold: Uncovering Your Natural Goodness, explores the fundamental value of connection and how to recognize the value in ourselves. Today, they discuss how to deepen our sense of compassion as we move through difficult times. They talk about interconnectedness, how to cultivate a sustainable meditation practice, and why seeing the good in others doesn’t mean ignoring the reality of our lived experiences. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Taz Bhatia, MD, is a board-certified integrative medicine physician, author, and the founder of the functional medicine practice, CentreSpringMD. She helps patients navigate their health journey by drawing from different systems of medicine, including Ayurveda and traditional Chinese medicine. Today, she joins GP to talk about perimenopause and menopause. They talk through what happens when our body begins perimenopause, the factors that influence our hormones, and what we can do to support our body while navigating—and enjoying—these stages of life. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cohost Erica Chidi is joined by the coauthors of Data Feminism: Catherine D’Ignazio (an assistant professor of urban science and planning at MIT) and Lauren F. Klein (an associate professor of English and quantitative theory and methods at Emory University). They explore the limits and uses of data, how data can reinforce and challenge systems of power, and how bad or missing data can hurt women. “We need to be assuming that these structural forces of oppression are going to show up in our data and our databases in the same ways that they show up in our policies and our institutions,” says D’Ignazio. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Emeran Mayer, MD, PhD, is a gastroenterologist, a neuroscientist, and an author. At UCLA, he serves as the executive director of the G. Oppenheimer Center for Neurobiology of Stress and Resilience and as the codirector of the Digestive Diseases Research Center. He has spent over forty years studying the interactions between the brain and the gut and the rest of the body. Today, he shares the most significant research and actionable tips from his new book, The Gut-Immune Connection. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Social inequity is probably the biggest driver of health,” says Lindo Bacon, PhD, author of Health at Every Size, Body Respect, and Radical Belonging. “And if we don’t address the social determinants of health, then we end up blaming the individuals and putting the onus on them when that’s so false and it’s shaming of people.” Bacon is a nutritionist, researcher, and an intersectional body liberation advocate. Today, Bacon joins co-host Erica Chidi to examine the relationship between health and weight, how healthcare practitioners can move beyond weight loss as a solution, and why radical belonging, equity, and connection are matters of personal and public health. “Self-love is a beautiful thing, but no matter how much you love yourself, when you go into a culture that doesn’t treat you well, it’s going to be hard to feel good about yourself,” says Lindo. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit h

Carl Hart, PhD, is the psychology department chair at Columbia University and the author of Drug Use for Grown-Ups. In his book, Hart makes the case for the legalization and regulation of all drugs, drawing on decades of scientific research, history, and his own experiences. Today, he joins co-host Erica Chidi to share his approach—which may surprise and challenge you. They discuss the narratives that have shaped public thinking and why it’s difficult to talk about drug use. Hart also shares how his own perspective shifted when he was studying the effects of drug use on the brain and why he believes decriminalization is only the first step toward a more hospitable society.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Psychologist and bestselling author Edith Eger’s book, The Gift: 12 Lessons to Save Your Life, explores the power of self-renewal and how to free yourself from thoughts and behaviors that might be imprisoning you. Today, she shares her own story of surviving the Holocaust and finding a path toward healing and forgiveness. GP and Eger discuss how to acknowledge and process anger, build resilience, and fall in love with yourself. Eger also describes her approach to revisiting the past and how she remains hopeful in the present. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Astrology can be a practical tool, says Chani Nicholas, astrologer and author of You Were Born for This. “Most of our spiritual life is lived out through very practical actions.” In this conversation, Nicholas explores the birth chart of our new cohost, Erica Chidi, CEO and cofounder of LOOM. And more broadly, Nicholas shares advice for anyone navigating a challenging transit period or in need of patience during a long cycle. Nicholas also explains why social justice and activism is important to her work: “How could I talk about a system of wisdom or knowledge that talks about humans and our experience here on earth without also addressing systemic inequalities?” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined by her friend Erica Chidi, CEO and cofounder of LOOM, and probably one of the first subscribers to goop back in 2008. They talk about the ways they’ve intersected and aligned over the years, how Chidi’s work as a doula has evolved, and the next iteration of her digital education platform. They talk about racism in healthcare, how to move forward through discomfort, the beauty to be found in liminal spaces, and why care and education are necessary components of health. Plus, they reveal a secret they’ve been keeping for a while. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The cure for burnout is not self-care,” says Emily Nagoski. “It’s simply care. It’s all of us caring for each other. That means that when you think you need more grit, what you need is more help. When you think you need more discipline, you need more kindness.” In this special episode, we’re taking a break from our typical interview format to share an audio workshop led by Emily and her sister Amelia Nagoski. Their book, Burnout, explores how women experience stress and outlines strategies for freeing yourself from the stress cycle. For more from Emily Nagoski, check out the updated edition of her bestselling book Come As You Are—the audiobook is particularly great—and stay tuned for her new podcast, which will also cover sex and sexuality. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I don’t wake up and say, ‘I hope this is a great day, and I’m not going to get triggered,’” says psychotherapist Barry Michels, coauthor of Coming Alive and The Tools. “I say, ‘I’m going to get triggered. There’s no question.’” Last year, GP had a conversation with Michels that we keep returning to. In it, Michels shares his three-point plan for coping with negativity. He has tools for regulating your thoughts, preparing to get triggered, and processing your emotional wounds. He also has a way of helping people to find unexpected sources of inspiration and opportunities to be of service. Plus, you’ll get to meet GP’s shadow if you listen until the end. For more, head to The goop Podcast hub. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP catches up with her longtime friend Laura Dern. They chat about being raised by double-artist parents and how their childhoods informed their acting careers, creative lives, and parenting styles. They talk about how they try to create space for their children to be vulnerable and explore their sense of self. And Dern shares why living in the gray—and finding comfort in the messy middle—has become so important to her. “That is life,” says Dern. “And there's something incredibly tender, celebratory, and vital about living in the gray.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Many of us romanticize our past selves, says actress, producer, and activist Gabrielle Union. “If you don't do an excavation of how you got to where you are, you will continue to live in the romanticized version of who you were and you won't be able to let go.” In this conversation, GP and Union explore past and future selves, parenting within blended families, healing from deep wounds, menopause misconceptions, and small pleasures. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP is joined by Harvard-trained sociologist and bestselling author Martha Beck. Beck’s new book, The Way of Integrity, explores what happens when we’re living in alignment with our true nature and how we become disconnected from it. She and GP talk about the ways we sublimate our own truths to be accepted by our circles—the little lies we tell to keep the peace or when we smile through discomfort—and why society is often threatened by people living in integrity. They also discuss how we can begin to access to our inner truth and why Beck decided to try not lying for an entire year. (By the way, she is now going on five years.) After you listen, preorder Beck’s extraordinary book, which comes out April 13.(For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP catches up with model, actress, entrepreneur, and activist Cara Delevingne. They start with Delevingne’s experience working in a high-pressure industry at young age and how she learned to break free from other people’s expectations. “You're put in a box or told to be a certain way,” Delevingne says. “And I hated it because it wasn’t a shape that I fit into.” They talk about how Delevingne approaches imposter syndrome, being a role model in the LGBTQIA community, and her hopes for anyone following in her footsteps. She also gives a preview of the five-day workout series she’s kicking off on goop’s YouTube channel and the scoop on Lora DiCarlo, the sex-tech brand she co-owns and is shaping as creative advisor. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The smarter you are, often the worse you are at rethinking because you can use your intelligence to contort the truth into what you want to hear and what you want to believe,” says organizational psychologist and beloved Wharton professor Adam Grant. After reading his new book, Think Again, GP spoke with Grant about applying his research and wisdom to nearly every facet of life, from our careers to our most intimate relationships. Why do people generally fear being wrong? Grant says that we live in a world that celebrates certainty and mistakes confidence for competence. He explains the trap of letting our ideas become our identities, and how we can find common ground with one another while navigating charged topics. You’ll also find out why Grant is a recovering logic bully. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices