Rework

37signals has undergone some name changes since its inception over 20 years ago: starting as 37signals in 1999, then changing to Basecamp in 2014, before switching back to 37signals in 2022. Today, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson sit down to uncover the story behind the name 37signals, the reasoning behind the name changes, and the impact a name has on a business as we discuss what's in a name. Show Notes:  [00:46] - Jason connects extraterrestrial intelligence to the name 37signals.[01:56] - The out-of-the-park success that prompted a reassessment of the company's diversification. [04:07] - Do we really need all this? The stress (and necessary decisions) that grew out of success.  [05:54] - How pride in their work led Jason and David to downsize their product line. [07:56] - Jason shares the behind-the-scenes story of the 2014 meeting that led to sun-setting their other products to focus on Basecamp (which is still in operation after 19 years).[10:04] - David shares the lightbulb moment he

Are you working over 40 hours a week while putting your personal life on hold?That's a common trap entrepreneurs, and executives often fall into while striving for success in their careers. It's also the fast track to sabotage your performance and drive yourself into burnout. It's time to re-evaluate your priorities and find a healthier balance.Today, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson sit down to discuss why "8’s Enough, 40's Plenty" from their book, It Doesn't Have to Be Crazy at Work.Listen in as they walk us through how shutting down the laptop and disconnecting from work at the end of the day can actually help you prioritize your time. Discover how incorporating an 8-8-8 formula and pursuing passions outside of the office will enhance your overall well being and boost your productivity and performance on the job.Show Notes:  [00:48] - Jason shares the tech problem of scope that leads to employee burnout. [02:09] - David shares the American habit of working excessi

If you follow Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, the co-founders of 37signals, anywhere online, you know they aren’t afraid to speak their minds and stand up for what they believe in.  Today, Jason and David sit down to discuss how embracing their viewpoint has led them to go toe-to-toe with some of the industry's biggest behemoths. They’ll walk us through some of their biggest battles and what it took to stand their ground while positively impacting the world. They’ll also share tips for when, and how, picking a fight with a competitor can work to your advantage. Plus, more insight from the chapter called "Pick A Fight" in their book, Rework.Show Notes:  [00:41] - Jason shares the reasoning behind their tendency to take a stand online.[01:27] - Broken business models: the awkwardness of companies who statistically lose money trying to sell business software. [02:49] - David describes how having strong principles and standing firmly behind them puts you in direct competition with compani

“When dealing with customers, especially those that are angry, there are always two tokens on the table. One is the token for it just doesn't matter. It's not a big deal. And the other token is it's the end of the world. We pick one, and the customer picks the other.”—Chase ClemonsToday, Chase Clemons is here. Chase is the Head of Customer Support and is on the front lines every day as he leads the 18-person support team at 37signals. Listen in as he shares why every customer interaction's outcome depends on which one of the two tokens the support team chooses, how to keep things Fisher Price easy for better customer understanding, and some of the strategies he has learned over his eleven years at 37signals for providing excellent customer service. Show Notes:  [00:56] - Chase shares his story of providing customer support for 37signals for 11 years. [01:48] - The two industries Chase thinks everyone needs to work in at some point in their lives to be able to handle ANY situation that life

What is your method of connecting with your customers? Does your product or service make sense to them, and do you understand how they see it?  Our perception of what is easy and straightforward and what the customer perceives as easy and straightforward can sometimes differ, making it vital for everyone on the team to hear directly from the customers without the ‘muffler.‘  Today, the cofounders of 37signals, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, discuss how 37signals gives everyone on the team an opportunity to engage with their customers from their book, Rework, in the chapter called "Put Everyone On The Front Lines." Show Notes:  [00:40] - Jason shares why it's great to ensure everyone can engage with the company's customers.[01:47] - David shares why it's vital to hear from the customer without the muffler occasionally.[03:54] - Why it's crucial to have contact with the customers to remember you're selling to individuals—and it's rewarding, too. [05:31] - Ensur

With the year ending, it's a good time to reflect on how far you've come in the past year as a company.  Today, the cofounders of 37signals, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, discuss the growth of the company in 2022 and some of the significant changes they made this year.  They'll walk us through some of the new positions they’ve added, the challenges they faced along the way, and how they work to preserve a culture at 37signals that aligns with who they are. Show Notes:  [00:42] - Jason shares how their two hits, Basecamp and HEY, were the primary motivators to change the way they operate (and grow).[02:44] - How a bigger team is helping 37signals stay on track with their goals.[03:44] -David shares that after 20 years, the extra team members are helping to ensure everything gets done without over-scheduling and a little more downtime. [06:40] - The importance of expanding the team to be more available for their customers to help them better use the 37signals products.[08:13] - How th

A small business has many benefits, like being able to move quickly, stay flexible and pivot when needed, something big businesses can't do as easily.  But, with the lure of getting bigger, sometimes small businesses fall into the trap of getting caught up in stiff language and legalese and ending up not sounding like themselves.  Today, the cofounders of 37signals, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, discuss why small businesses should embrace the fact they can communicate without running every word through a legal or public relations department, as discussed in the chapter "Sound Like You" of their book, Rework. Show Notes:  [00:54] - Jason shares why they usually publish their writing directly — from mind to keyboard to the world—to get their ideas out there as clearly, and quickly as possible.  [02:00] - Why running something you've written through a filter often produces something that sounds like legalese. [03:00] - David shares why writing what you want to read is vital (or do

Customer relationships don't have to last forever. Keeping your hands wrapped around every customer will only lead to trying to evolve into something you're not is the death knell for your business.  Today, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss the idea that you should let your customers outgrow you from their book, Rework.  Show Notes:  [00:32] - Why evolving as your customers do is a death knell for your business. [01:37] - David shares why, as a software design business owner, you need to be the voice of the people who aren't your customers—yet![02:31] - By building in all the features your existing customers want, you are closing the door on what makes things turnkey for new customers. [03:24] - Not every customer relationship has to be forever. [04:55] - Jason shares why your product needs to evolve no matter your business size. [05:39] - Why it's important to gear your improvements on behalf of everyone and not a few outliers.[06:39] - How pricing models differ based on si

"Getting out of estimates and getting into appetites and budgets is the single most important thing that we have instituted," - David Heinemeier Hansson  Today, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, the co-founders of 37signals, discuss their chapter in Rework on why estimating is not the road to completing projects and what has helped them get things done in their business for over twenty years. Show Notes:  [00:42] - David shares why it's time to accept that we're awful at estimating.[03:27] - Why estimating is 'an amazing example of the human optimism to overcome its own fundamental flaws in a way that's just wholesomely unrealistic.'[04:48] - What 37signals does instead of estimating as relayed in Shape Up.[05:49] - Jason asks how much you are willing to spend (or lose) in gambling (and software development projects).[08:13] - The worst situation to be in for rational decision-making.[09:00] - Why it's vital to stick to your limits.[10:29] - "Getting out of

There's a lot of talk in the tech world about getting bigger, growing as fast as you can, and getting investor money so you can scale quickly.  But that's not the only path. And recently, we've seen that being bigger only sometimes works well for companies.  Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, the Co-founders of 37signals, discuss the bigger is better culture in tech and why the human connection inherently built into small businesses can actually be an advantage. Plus, their invitation to small businesses to think differently through their open letter called, Come small, come all.  Show Notes:  [00:44] - Jason shares why it's important to note that Basecamp is interested in helping the Fortune 5 million and the small shop down the street. [01:49] - David shares why it's important to him to be honest about the company's target audience. [03:29] - The key to finding the right dance partner that's your bread and butter. [05:30] - David shares the funny anecdote about when

Throughout its tenure, 37signals has consistently grown without spending much on marketing. How'd the company do this? By out-teaching their competition.  Recently, they've begun sharing their thoughts on company decisions and even doing product walkthroughs on their YouTube channel.  Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, the Co-founders of 37signals, discuss the true value of sharing the behind-the-scenes of how they work and what they've learned in over 20 years in business. Show Notes: [00:40] - The transparency in sharing the winding road of building your business.[01:17] - Why we share the behind-the-scenes of our work.[02:40] - David shares that the philosophy of out-teaching the competition is in their DNA. [03:04] - Building the company without overspending on advertising by sharing what we do through various mediums. [03:33] - Jason shares why the go big or go home tropes for building businesses fails to show all the options.[04:38] - How we built Basecamp.[05:25] - It doesn't

Meetups offer remote companies an opportunity to gather away from the day-to-day for more in-depth conversations that foster deeper relationships for the team and bigger leaps for the company.  At the beginning of October, sixty 37signals employees met up in Amsterdam for the first company-wide meetup outside the U.S. Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, the Co-founders of 37signals, discuss the importance of in-person meetups for remote companies, the structure they use for their twice-yearly team gathering, and tips and insight for other companies on planning their own offsite meetings.  Show Notes: [00:34] - The essential value of gathering the entire team together. [02:05] - Why the company decided to gather outside the U.S. for their latest meetup.[02:29] - The changing rhythm of a global company working across several time zones. [04:12] - How moving the event to Amsterdam turned it into a social experience.[04:51] - The priceless value of extravagant experiences and live connections to stay strong

Co-founders of 37signals, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss decision making within an organization. Small businesses have the advantage of being nimble and able to change course quickly, so there's no reason to get caught up in the "what ifs." Show Notes:0:47 – Avoiding overthinking and overcomplicating issues1:47 – Getting rid of the "what ifs"4:30 – Making decisions as small as possible5:45 – The advantages small business have when it comes to being agile and nimble8:30 – Getting comfortable with uncertainty11:00 – Calculations and projections in decision making13:50 – Deciding when to pivot on a decision15:20 – The Tyranny of Metrics by Jerry Z. Muller18:04 – The 37signals Guide to Making Decisions19:05 – The 37signals Guide to Internal Communication20:20 – Using instincts in decision making22:01 – Maverick by Ricardo Semler23:14 – 37signals upcoming technical blogSign Up for 30-day FREE trial at Basecamp.com

David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founder of 37signals, and Eron Nicholson, Director of Operations, discuss why 37signals is making the move away from the cloud.Show Notes:David's piece, Why We're Leaving the Cloud0:59 - 37signals history with on-premise and cloud storage8:26 - How cloud solutions don't necessary reduce operations teams costs10:58 - What types of companies are the best fit for cloud solutions14:14 - 37signals costs for cloud solutions and potential savings with on-premise options15:25 - Advantages of working with on-premise storage companies that are similar in size to 37signals20:08 - What the transition might look like, including timing26:02 - Advice for medium-sized companies that might be thinking about making the switchSign Up for 30-day FREE trial at Basecamp.com

You've been working on a thing for days, weeks, maybe months and you're still nowhere near finishing. Our natural instinct is to say, "I've already put this much time and energy into it, might as well finish." Well, most of the time this is wrong. You're not getting that time back either way and usually the better option is just to quit!

Building and maintaining momentum is one of the most underrated things you can do when building products. Keep moving forward by shipping work early and often. The longer something takes, the less likely it is you'll finish it. At 37signals, we work in six-week cycles, but even six weeks is a long time, so pepper in some easy, quick wins to keep that momentum going.Show Notes01:23 - The Six Week Cycle (Basecamp 3 Help)02:50 - Jason Zimdars06:57 - Sean Mitchell06:59 - 37signals.com07:12 - basecamp.com10:18 - There's no speed limit - Derek Sivers12:28 - Goldilocks Zone (NASA)18:14 - Setting the appetite (Shape Up)

At 37signals, we tend to solve problems by finding a "judo solution." The simplest, easiest, cheapest solution that gets you 90% of the way there. It doesn't have to be perfect. It doesn't have to be great. It just has to be good enough. Part of this is reframing and simplifying the problem itself. And, remember, you can always turn "good enough" into "great" later.Show Notes03:57 - Are Your Lights On?: How to Figure Out What the Problem Really Is - Donald C. Gause, Gerald M. Weinberg (Amazon)05:26 - Six-week cycles (Shape Up)08:47 - Team and project sizes (Shape Up)09:31 - Principles of Shaping (Shape Up)10:40 - Fat marker sketches (Shape Up)11:32 - Just set it aside (HEY)13:29 - Agile software development (Wikipedia)15:56 - Kanban (Wikipedia)20:34 - Shape Up

Meetings are the worst type of interruption. A one-hour meeting with five people is actually five hours of productivity lost. They're also horrible at conveying information. So, why do so many companies jump to meetings as the first option. Next time try writing something up, jumping on a a one-on-one call, or just skip the whole thing altogether!Show Notes00:37 - Why work doesn't happen at work - Jason Fried (TED)10:56 - Digital Minimalism: Choosing a Focused Life in a Noisy World - Cal Newport (Bookshop.org)17:19 - Multi-core processor (Wikipedia)20:53 - Apple's spaceship HQ valued as one of the world's most expensive buildings (The Guardian)21:09 - Free Fortnite (Epic Games)21:28 - Six-week cycles (Shape Up)21:29 - Work is like a hill (Shape Up)22:53 - Successful projects begin with a great kickoff message (Basecamp)22:53 - What's in a Heartbeat? - Jason Fried (HEY World)

A close look at how we develop features at 37signals. Designer Michelle Harjani walks Shaun through the entire process of making the Bubble Up Feature in HEY.Show Notes00:42 - Michelle Harjani (Twitter)00:59 - Bubble Up01:28 - Six-week cycles (Shape Up)01:38 - Set Aside02:56 - Team and project sizes (Shape Up)03:26 - Cool-down (Shape Up)05:04 - Fat marker sketches (Shape Up)05:32 - The Betting Table (Shape Up)

Having a calendar peppered with meetings or other commitments is horrible for productivity. Most people need at least a few hours or even days of completely uninterrupted alone time in order to do their best work. On this episode Jason and David give some strategies for creating the empty space you need to be productive.Show Notes14:56 - Slack16:25 - Automatic Check-ins: Keep everyone in the know (Basecamp)